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Trying to find best order with Import Data Doctor

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I am in the process of healing a STEP imported model and I'm having difficulty getting good results.

 

The 1st puzzling issue I'm noticing is that the tolerance of my imported model is much more than my default config settings show that I have set.  Is there another config setting for changing imported models or do you have to manually change the tolerance of anything that you import?  Is there any logic to why it chooses the number that it does when it imports?  Of course when I change the import settings to my default tolerance it shows a lot more errors on the Import Data Doctor.

 

When I look at the Geometry Checks I had numerous Red Dot Items for "Bad two-sided edges".  Since they are Red Dots I figured that these items needed healed 1st.  The method I took in healing each item was strange to me.  The prompt suggests Use the "Remove from Wireframe" tool to convert the two-sided edge(s) to pairs of one-sided edges."   The only way I see this option available is by right clicking on the item, so I would be my healing process by removing from wireframe.  Next the prompt is to Use the "Merge Crv/Wfm" tool to combine neighboring one-sided edges of same surface into single one-sided edges.  I see this option no where.  The only thing that seems to get me where I need to go is by right clicking and selecting "Modify".  Once I do this it did not matter whether I hit cancel or if I hit the Green "OK" button it sealed up the open wireframe most of the time.  I say most of the time as some times after doing this I would still have the open edge, sometimes I would have a gap.  My working order became as follows.

1) Tried Remove from Wireframe/Modify with OK if this worked I went to the next "Bad two-sided edge".

2) If this didn't work I selected the edge and I tried using the Match option instead of removing from wireframe.  In looking at hi-lite of result preview I determined if this was what I needed.

3) If this didn't work I selected the edge and I tried using the Replace command and let the preview determine whether this would work.

Does this order of working through a list of "Bad two-sided edges" sound appropriate for getting clean results or is there a better way or order of doing this?

 

After completing the "Bad two-sided edges" I started working on the "Bad Vertices".  The prescribed method with this was to Use the "Move Vertex" tool to fix the vertex.  I found that 95% of the time I could not even select the vertex in question to move the Bad Vertex.  The 2nd suggestion was to Use the "Merge Crv/Wfm" tool to combine the edges, that define the vertex, into a single edge and remove the vertex.  I found that I could not even try that suggestion as it was not available.  Even though I'm struggling with it I'm finding that it works better to select the bad wireframe edge and use the Replace command.  Is there a better way to do this?

 

I found that fixing the Unsatisfied Wireframe most of the time required using the Replace or Match command as well.

 

I've worked through the bad geometry in my model from top to bottom.

 

Is there a work flow with healing in Import Data Doctor that would be prescribed to prevent the model from getting worse as you go, and making the healing relatively painless?  I have tried hitting the auto repair button but in doing so discovered many distortions added to the model.  I have worked a little on a lengthy Import Data Doctor tutorial but found it to be confusing and not addressing the specific issues I was running into.

 

I'll attach a segment of the model I am working on that shows numerous bad geometry issues.  I already healed about 20 Bad two-sided edges prior to the snapshot.

 

What I am seeing quite often is that the wireframe does not match up with the surfaces; It's very puzzling trying to figure out how to get everything matching up with clean transitions.

 

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Unhide / Show command lables (in the ribbon)

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OK,

 

So, while playign around with Creo 2 (actaully, frustratedly trying to find something else taht use dto be fairly easin in WF5) I see I can 'hide command lables' in the ribbon.  Cool! 

 

But, uhm, how do you unhide them?  help tells me a few times how to hide them, and that thy can be hidden..  Once hidden, the 'hide' option on teh RMB menu is now greyed out..

 

Oh, I'm a new-ish user (1.5 yearsw) with many of the gripes the others have..   My list is ever growing!

S/M flat pattern bend direction & angle notes - change

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So, we do a lot of sheet metal here.  One gripe we all seem to have is when we place our flat pattern in the drawing, we like to use the parametric note for the bend angle.  We would like to show no decimal places for the angle (currenly it shows 2 decimal places).

 

We would also like to move the leader arrow.  Currently it's fixed on the center / mid-point of the bend line.

 

Can these be changed?

Show both dimenioan parameter & number at teh same time while modelling

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So, I’d like to take more advantage of parametrics in Creo. When In used "that other program" I could set my dimensions to show the number, and the dimension label. It showed both. I could then make this dim=2/d34, and that dim =(d74+.25)/3, etc.. While I try this in Creo, I seem to have to constantly turn on & off the ‘switch symbol’ to get either a number or a parameter.. And I get the "Would you like to make this a relation" dialog each time. (Time consuming, but I don’t mind too much.) Can I have both the numer and the parameter shown at the same time?

Is it possible to format rpt.index so that the sl no apears line i,ii,iii,iv etc.

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Is it possible to format rpt.index so that the sl no apears line i,ii,iii,iv etc.?

Suitable Laptop for CREO 2.0 parametric?

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Can any body suggest me which low budget laptop will be good for creo 2 parametric? I think core i 3with 4 gb ram i can afford? whether it would be ok?

Trouble exporting sketches in Iges

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When exporting a Iges with sketches, all the entities in one sketch are joined in one single curve. Is there any way of exporting the sketch entities in independent curves?

Pattern then merge surfaces

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I must be missing something simple, I just want to pattern (axis) and merge 40 surfaces. What the heck am I missing?

 

Merging seems to be 2 quilts at a time. But I have to missing something else, it can't be this hard.


Reverse Engineering Tutorials

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I'm not sure why we still have only Wildfire 3.0/4.0 tutorials for some of the extensions when Creo 3.0 is impending.

 

Can someone please share any video tutorials/help files for Creo 2.0 Reverse Engineering Extension.

Datum features & datum frames/targets

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Hi, I can't get Creo to show the datum feature the way I like, I have a single datum frame/target on a part and will like to simplify the indication as shown in the picture below (ref, ISO 5459). Anybody know if this is possible?

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The only way I can achieve a result that comply with ISO 5459 in my situation is if I show the datum feature indication in another view/projection, attached to the surface, then uses a datum frame/target. The issue I have with this is that I can not find a god solution regarding adding the datum target name/number (A1) close to the datum feature indicator, as shown below. Sure I can add a note, but since I can not relate this note to the datum feature, it is not a robust metode....

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Any good ideas?

How to bring arc dimensions from one view to another view?

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Hello all,

          I've a problem regarding model dimensions placing in drawing. I have used revolve command placing sketch in Front datum (the sketch is to get half clylinder) and I have given radius dimension in that sketch and revoled through 180 deg by symetrically through right plane.

        Now I come to drawing and placed Front, Top and Right views. Here I need dimensions in right view. When I'm placing dimensions in Right view the dimensions showing correctly but It is showing like linear, rather than radial dimensions (Mean it's showing "R" before dimension but as linear). Can anybody help me to getout of this problem.

 

Thanks & Regards,

Naveen Kumar Gongu.

Geometric tolerances option

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Hi all,

  1. when I have to declare the datum references, I have to choice between two options, but I don't understand the real differences betwenn these ones.
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  2. In second instance, is there a way to put the reference on a surface without creating a plane and putting the reference on the plane (that it is on the surface...) ?

 

Bye



Quick way to find session ID

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Hi,  I am looking for a quick way to find all session ID's of the parts within my assembly, other than showing session ID of each part individually. 

 

Is there a report that can be generated that provides this information?  It would be nice if there were a model tree column that could be turned on, but it doesn't appear to be an option.

 

Thanks,

Jason

Creo 2 on Mac

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I've just started revising older designs on Creo 2 running in a Fusion Windoe with Win 7.  Everything seems to work well, but I'm getting stymied by either my ignorance of Creo 2 vs older proE verions, or there is some sort of key mapping problem that keeps me from doing pretty basic things like measuring dimensions.  Following the tutorials for using the measurement tools, it seems that ctl and alt keys are used with mouse clicks to get the basics for any measurement.  All I can get is the base reference on first click, then nothing.

 

Any suggestions?

How to hide notes

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Hello,

 

I would like to know how to hide some sorts of notes like geometrical references, welding notes, atc. on parts and asseblies

 

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thnx for help


RoseConverter for upgrade from 9.1 to 10.2

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Hello,

 

I have been trying to use rose converter for model upgrade from rose to annotations.

 

I see that there a conflict between the instructions in the upgrade guide and the readme file in the rose converter.

Can aany one let me know the which one of them are the correct set of instructions.

 

Note:Upgarde guide says that the custom file are to be copied from source to target and then to run roseconverter , readme on the contrary asks to copy the roseconverter in the source system and run it on the source machine.

 

Regards,

Neeraj

Creo 2 - Geometric Tolerances/Annotations

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My company made the jump from WF3 to Creo2, and I'm struggling a bit with drawings.  It's been a while since I've used Pro/E, as most of my recent projects have been in Solidworks, so I may just be a bit rusty.  The modeling has been easy to get back into, but I'm really struggling with drawing creation, specifically geometric tolerancing. 

 

In the past, I would create geotol datums and tolerances in the model, and simply show them in the drawing when that time came.  It seems to be a bit more complex now in Creo.  After much trial and error, I've finally managed to get my geotols into the model and displayed on the drawing. It took a while to figure out, and I'm still not sure I quite grasp the new "Annotate" tab.  I could create datums and geotols to my hearts content, but it was a 50/50 shot if they would even show in any drawing view.  Sometimes the datum would display, but the geotol attached to it would not, or could only be shown in a specific view.  I ended up deleting and recreating the reference datums and geotols several times until the eventually would display somewhere on the drawing. 

 

One of the main things that is a bit confusing, as there seems to be no rhyme or reason as to what view you can and cannot display the annotations.  The annotations I've created were placed on specific planes, but will not display on those planes/view oreintations in the drawing. If I go back to the model, and move the annotation to a different plane, the drawing does not seem to care at all.  It just stays in it's current position and view.  Sometime there would be several view options to display a datum target, but not the associated geotol.  It's just very odd.  The datums can usually be shown in multiple views, but not the associated geotol. 

 

The other thing that has me a bit confused is hiding datums/geotols in the model.  In the past, I've used the environment setting to not display notes created from taped holes, and layers to hide geotols/datums.  Things seem to be a bit different.  The only way I can manage to hide a geotol or datum is to right click on the annotation from the detail tree when in the annotate tab and erase it.  When in the model, and in the annotate tab, the "show annotation" button will not allow me to not display the datum or geotol regardless of what I click on. 

 

Besides that, the learning curve hasn't been to bad.  It took me a little while to find the existing features and settings I'm used to using.  Everything is still there, just in a differnt place.  The creation of geotols/datums has alway been a bit counterintuitive, but I knew how to do it.  However, with Creo I can't make any sense of it.  Can anyone add some clarity, or tips, or point me to a good guide?  Am I the only one struggling with detailing?  

 

Creo2.0 M070

Optimizing drill bit geometry

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I have a customer asking if Creo can be used to optimize drill bit geometry. What combination of angles for the different edges will give the best performace for a certain material. Attached is an image of his model.

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rearrenging BOM

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how to rearrenge BOM in drawing.it is in repeat region.

Parts are not in sequence I want move parts up and down in BOM.

Query - North America Creo MBD/MBE user visit opportunity from Japan

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Hello all,

 

I belong to a Japanese electronics industry association as PTC liaison. The name is JEITA - www.jeita.or.jp/english - the Japan Electronics and Information Technology Industries Association. In the JEITA organization, there is the 3D-CAD committee. They are discussioning about future standard in terms of 3D model based and GD&T annotation - so called 3D drawing. This year, they are planning a business study trip to North America. The purpose is to communicate and exchagne information with key Creo users where are similarly doing 3D model based engineering so that it can be improve the engineering and manufacturing process innovation. So does anyone know the reference Creo customers who are particularly doing 3D drawing? They are requesting to have a business meeting face to face during their stay in North America. ASME 14.41, MIL-STD31000A, AP242, and TC184/SC4 are also very interesting standard topics for the JEITA members as well. The travel timing is not fix yet, it is roughly one week of among September 2014 - March 2015. They are also interested in visit to PDES inc. and a MBD/MBE society if there is in US. If someone suggest some recommended visits, please let me know. The tour member is tentatively from CANON, TOSHIBA, NIKON, and SONY. They are senior level engineering managers and leading industry standard definition working with Japan government as well. You can also have an opportunity to ask them the Japanese companies' initiatives during the meetings.

 

Again, I am looking for North America Creo users to visit discussing about MBD/MBE initiative for Japanese manufactures.

 

Thank you,

 

Satoshi Goto

 

Business Development Director

PTC Japan Co., Ltd.

sgoto@ptc.com

www.ptc.com

 

LinkedIn - jp.linkedin.com/pub/satoshi-goto/8/62/238/

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